The Continued Hypocrisy of John Kerry Via the NEA

[Sonar5]

The Continued Hypocrisy of John Kerry Via The NEA

Ok, this one gets my Goat...

Look at what kerry said today:
"The president may be too busy to talk to you," Kerry told the partisan crowd, "but I have news for you: He's going to have plenty of time after Nov. 2."

What a hypocritical statement to make, in light of the Press's refusal to even mention that kerry did even worse, accepting then not showing up at all.

You will be seeing the Press today complaining all day long about the Fact that President Bush is not speaking at the NAACP convention...

You will see pundits all over the airwaves saying Bush takes them for granted or doesn't care about the NAACP's issues.

But think about this when you hear kerry soundbytes.

This same John F. Kerry REFUSED to speak after not only being invited to the NEA (National Education blah blah blah.), convention, but the previous day Kerry was endorsed by the organization, and the following day he blows them off and doesn't show up.

So I ask, what is the greater harm....

Politely declining an Invitation such as Presdident Bush did

or

Being Invited, agreeing to attend, then being endorsed by the NEA, then blowing them off and not appearing after it is too late to retract the endorsement?

I say what kerry did was worse, but if you watch the news today, see if they mention that, or see how balanced they are in reporting that.

AP Story:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040715/D83RACI80.html

And the Press plays along. I quoted Kerry above from the story linked above, which conveniently leaves out what Kerry did to the NEA recently. Now you can't honestly believe that any reporter, let alone Fournier, reporting in this election is not aware of what Kerry did. Just more media BIAS, IMHO. So much for reporting both sides. And Ron Fournier to boot, who Bush calls on first the most times at Press Conferences.

Open Challenge...

Cite any news story on Bush not speaking to the NAACP that mentions Kerry blowing off the NEA in the same story. Leave out Conservative news sites, I'm talking AP, Reuters, Newspapers, etc...

Regards,
Joe

[ninjalooter1701]

Joe, don't you have your own site to whine on?

Why are you just spamming this here? You've been humiliated enough, repeatedly here, with your hatred of Islam that I doubt you'll stay around, this is just a spamming like Marlowe has done.

It's well known that you're paranoid and anti-education, don't worry though, we can still read the BIBLE!
Cite any news story on Bush not speaking to the NAACP that mentions Kerry blowing off the NEA in the same story. Leave out Conservative news sites, I'm talking AP, Reuters, Newspapers, etc...
How about the same REVERSE challenge, "joe?"

[sinterest]

Where's the link to Kerry "blowing off" the NEA (his biggest union support)? Is you crazy?

[Sonar5]

Where's the link to Kerry "blowing off" the NEA (his biggest union support)? Is you crazy?

Sorry, I forgot to add that.

Happy To oblige your request. :)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040706-115338-3977r.htm

Regards,
Joe

[sinterest]

Thanks,
Here what I found there
"NEA members attending their annual meeting at the Washington Convention Center had voted more than 6-to-1 Monday to endorse Mr. Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, in his campaign to unseat President Bush. "
Must have really pissed them off.
Oh yeah - the "moony ultra conservative washington times" did find a teacher who felt "snubbed".
Bet he got a raise for that catch.

I just can't imagine why this teacher has not been on fox yet :rollin

You are real funny - keep postin will ya? :cheers

[Sonar5]

Their vote for Endorsement was taken Monday, and after that Vote, kerry was scheduled to speak on Tuesday, not Monday.

It was after the endorsement that Kerry pulled the engagement, then according to the Story, Kennedy also turned them down, and then H. Clinton ended up being their speaker.

The Hypocrisy is that some get all bent out of shape over Bush not showing up, yet how many of you even knew Kerry snubbed the NEA before I posted.

The news barely covered it, In my Opinion.

Watch how long they cover the NAACP story though.

Regard,
Joe

[thaanatos]

I see a distinct parallel between the two situations.....Kerry knew that the NEA would endorse him no matter if he spoke to them or not.....Bush knew that the NAACP would endorse Kerry no matter if he spoke to them or not.....ihn both instances 'reaching out' would be a wasted motion.....

[ninjalooter1701]

Their vote for Endorsement was taken Monday, and after that Vote, kerry was scheduled to speak on Tuesday, not Monday.

It was after the endorsement that Kerry pulled the engagement, then according to the Story, Kennedy also turned them down, and then H. Clinton ended up being their speaker.

The Hypocrisy is that some get all bent out of shape over Bush not showing up, yet how many of you even knew Kerry snubbed the NEA before I posted.

The news barely covered it, In my Opinion.

Watch how long they cover the NAACP story though.

Joe, did the NEA provide a press release about the situation (being Kerry's absence at the meeting) and if so, what did they say?

[sinterest]

The Hypocrisy is that some get all bent out of shape over Bush not showing up, yet how many of you even knew Kerry snubbed the NEA before I posted.
They have plenty of time to withdraw their endorsement.
I'm sure that he let the leadership know that the timing for his VP announcement had to be that day for the most effect or to avoid conflicts – who knows but I just went to their web sight and there is no mention anywhere within about his not showing.
You are making “a mole hill out of a mountain” aren’t you?
The Afros squawked and the teacher didn’t – where is the story? The squawkie wheel gets the grease.
BTW I don’t like the NEA and feel that they are not helping to improve education of our children.

[Sonar5]

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Joe, did the NEA provide a press release about the situation (being Kerry's absence at the meeting) and if so, what did they say?

Not that I could find, the only reference was to Clinton's surprise visit where they said:

"Yesterday, U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) made a surprise appearance at the hall, reminding the delegates why this election is so critical. "Education remains a core issue," Clinton said. "This is the most important election in a lifetime. It will set the course of the nation." She urged NEA members to maximize their involvement in the election by registering new voters and getting involved in support of friends of education."

From:
http://nea.org/newsreleases/2004/nr040707b.html

[ninjalooter1701]

It sounds like the NEA didn't have a problem with Kerry cancelling his visit, then, Sonar5. Are you speaking up for them?

[Atenhotep]

Jeesh .. sonar ... you're sonar sure isn't working, you keep running into inanimate objects.

Keep posting.

You're funny.

[sinterest]

"Yesterday, U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) made a surprise appearance at the hall, reminding the delegates why this election is so critical. "Education remains a core issue," Clinton said. "This is the most important election in a lifetime. It will set the course of the nation." She urged NEA members to maximize their involvement in the election by registering new voters and getting involved in support of friends of education."

Just like all the pundits on fox say, "Hillary dosen't want Kerry to win" :lol

[Sonar5]

Well, some on other channels were saying Mrs. clinton was upset about not appearing as a speaker at the convention coming up.

Now apparently in a change of heart the DNC will have her introducing her husband, William.

And as for Clinton. If she does have Presidential asperations, theoretically she could be out for 16 years, if Kerry won, two terms for him, two terms for Edwards. You know hypothetically spekaing of course. ;)

Now if you had presidential aspirations, I think anyone in her position would not want to wait that long.

Same thing happened to Dole, he had to wait until 1996 to run. Many thought he was too old, and he got beat pretty good.

How old will Mrs. Clinton be in 2019?

Of course, she should never state whether she wishes Kerry to lose, or not, but even dems on other sites that are predominatly dem have discussed this isssue.

I think it is an ok issue to discuss, and not Partisan, either since Dole was in the same position until it was his turn, so to speak.

And I don't think there is anything wrong with Clinton fans who want to see her as President being vocal for Kerry to lose to set her up for 2008.

When President Bush wins in November, :) , I don't think Cheney will run for President in 2008. I think another person is more likely to get the nomination on the Republican Side. Who Knows who that will be, but it will be an easier race than running against an incumbant, such as this year. since the President has the ofice to project during the campaign, like any presidents beofree him.

Sorry for the long post. I hope you read it in the spirit it is offered.

Regards,
Joe

[suedanim]

Bush knew that the NAACP would endorse Kerry no matter if he spoke to them or not.....ihn both instances 'reaching out' would be a wasted motion.....

And well he ought to know it! He's tried to roll back the clock to pre-1964 ever since he took office. He definitely has not shown he is a friend of the common man, black, brown or white. Still, he could try to be a bigger man than the whiney, lying, little fucker he really is and show some respect and attend since he was invited by them. I am sure they would show him greater respect than he shows them!

[Sonar5]

suedanim,

Perhaps you can find some quotes President Bush or Vice President Cheney made that were disparaging Specifically to the NAACP.

And then we can compare and contrast that with comments mcfume and bond made about President Bush.

And then we can later compare that with comments President Bush makes when he visits the Urban League later on.

And then we can can compare cabinet Positions of previous presidents with President Bush in regards to this matter.

Oh, and what about the comments Education Secretary Paige made in the WSJ today, did you see those?

One more thing, please point me in the direction of the apology that Bond or mcfume have ever made about coments they made about President Bush.

IMHO, the ball is in the NAACP's court, and when they act properly again, maybe a future President in office will show up. Until then, too bad.

Just wondering.....

[Atenhotep]

and when they act properly again, maybe a future President in office will show up. Until then, too bad.

That's exactly how I feel about the Republicans.

No republican should ever be allowed near the White House until they're willing to act with honesty and not screw the American people over.

[Sonar5]

and when they act properly again, maybe a future President in office will show up. Until then, too bad.

That's exactly how I feel about the Republicans.

No republican should ever be allowed near the White House until they're willing to act with honesty and not screw the American people over.

So show me with evidence where President Bush disparaged the NAACP.

Here is your big chance.

He spoke to them in 2000, and for doing that he got the famous chain ad.

As well as statements by bond.

Would you honestly go back while those two were still there. I wouldn't.

And he will be speaking to other organizations, so this just shows how partisan the NAACP really is in this regard. When they change their leadership, I bet he will go back and speak to them.

Heck, even Bill Cosby didn't give his political rants, only his regular comedy show according to statements by those who heard him speak.

[thaanatos]

He's tried to roll back the clock to pre-1964 ever since he took office.
lets see a list of his roll backs, please?

[ninjalooter1701]

and when they act properly again, maybe a future President in office will show up. Until then, too bad.

That's exactly how I feel about the Republicans.

No republican should ever be allowed near the White House until they're willing to act with honesty and not screw the American people over.

So show me with evidence where President Bush disparaged the NAACP.

Here is your big chance.

He spoke to them in 2000, and for doing that he got the famous chain ad.

As well as statements by bond.

Would you honestly go back while those two were still there. I wouldn't.

And he will be speaking to other organizations, so this just shows how partisan the NAACP really is in this regard. When they change their leadership, I bet he will go back and speak to them.

Heck, even Bill Cosby didn't give his political rants, only his regular comedy show according to statements by those who heard him speak.

Here's YOUR big chance: Show us that the NEA was pissed that Kerry cancelled.

You seem to be mad at Kerry for something, you seem to be standing up for some great truth, but you're not standing up for "the truth" you're standing up for "anti-kerry." Don't pretend to be some great defender of the truth when you're just an anti-kerry campaigner.

[thaanatos]

Here's YOUR big chance: Show us that the NEA was pissed that Kerry cancelled.
they weren't pissed, Ninny.....they are prepared to suck whatever liberal dick gets annointed, whether he speaks to them or not, just like the NAALCP, the National Association for the Advancement of Liberal Colored People.....

[Sonar5]

Ninjalooter1701 Said:
Here's YOUR big chance: Show us that the NEA was pissed that Kerry cancelled.

You seem to be mad at Kerry for something, you seem to be standing up for some great truth, but you're not standing up for "the truth" you're standing up for "anti-kerry." Don't pretend to be some great defender of the truth when you're just an anti-kerry campaigner.

Hmmmm, I never said the NEA was mad at them, perhaps you should try going back to the beginning and read what I said.

Feel free to quote what I said, makea reasoned resposne and I will reply to those.

In other words, if you can't understand what I have written, which others seem to understand, I'm afraid I can't make it any clearer than I already have.
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[ninjalooter1701]

Your "motive* is clear. Your altruism is absent. Your challenge on behalf of someone who wants no defense is hardly noble.