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Atenhotep
07-14-2004, 10:35 PM
Hey ... anyone willing to poke fun at themselves with a target or a crying baby for an avatar has my vote.

That shows a pretty damn good sense of humor.

I was wondering if you might prefer one of these:

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/09_11.gif

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/flaglow.gif

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/rwbelephant.gif

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/trade_center_with_flag_md_wht.gif

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/usflag3.gif

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/usa5.gif

I picked those out with you in mind. I hope there's something in there you might consider using.

:D

07-15-2004, 12:46 AM
Hey!

Thanks I like this one!

Atenhotep
07-15-2004, 12:49 AM
Cool Beans!

Anyway, unless you download it to your machine then upload it to Daavros' server here you'll get cut off.

Or you could upload it to :

http://www.miamihost.net/ims/login.php

It's a free image hosting site.

Hope it helps.

07-15-2004, 12:50 AM
I am using the one from now on.. thanks :)

Atenhotep
07-15-2004, 12:51 AM
Glad I could help. :D

GunnyL
07-15-2004, 03:01 AM
Hmmm......

GunnyL
07-15-2004, 03:02 AM
This one'll do for now. Thanks for arming the opposition, Aten! :lol

Atenhotep
07-15-2004, 04:52 AM
Well, that's the Liberal way you know ... ;)

:lol

PS: It looks good on you. :D

Francois Cellier
07-15-2004, 05:54 AM
Good choices, Bobboi and Gunnyl! It shows your integrity ... exploiting 9/11 for political gain (most of the other of the proposed avatars) is an expression of bad taste in my view.

Atenhotep
07-15-2004, 06:23 AM
While I myself prefer the ones they picked I must disagree with you on those twin towers avatars representing an exploitation of 9-11 Francois.

Bush does that when ever he uses in a speech to scare the American people but the image of the towers has become a very strong symbol of America (for better or worse).

This is a nice one:

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/wtc3.gif

... but it's too busy and oversized for an avatar IMO.

This one:

http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage21/9.gif

expresses the symbology as I've expressed ... but is similar to LBs so I didn't present it for bobboi.

Would this one ...

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/stand.gif

... be exploiting the eagle?

Although I can "kinda sorta" understand how you might feel about the symbols as I felt this one:

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/gbusa.gif

was exploiting it (and too large for an avatar).

Isn't that odd how the different images might produce different feelings?

Anyway, I respect your feeling on the issue Francois as it is a major frustration seeing Bush exploit that horrific event.

Francois Cellier
07-15-2004, 06:38 AM
I still think, using the twin towers for political purpose is bad taste, and the fact that Bush does it on every occasion that presents itself certainly doesn't change my view on the issue!

Your latest example of a twin-tower avatar is even double-bad taste, because not only does it exploit 9/11, it also makes fun of it.

Yet, this brings up another interesting question. Gunnyl thanked you for arming the opposition, and no-one objected to his statement.

Why is it that we seem to accept the idea that an American flag superimposed on the map of the U.S. is a symbol of the Republican party? What is so typically "Republican" about it? Do we all meanwhile associate patriotism (because the symbol is most certainly patriotic) with Republican? Did the Republicans really accomplish this feat? You yourself evidently made that association, Atenhotep; otherwise you wouldn't have offered that avatar in the same list with the others.

Has the term patriotism really been devalued that much already by its constant abuse for political gain by the Republicans?

Atenhotep
07-15-2004, 07:01 AM
No, I feel you read that incorrectly Francois.

When thanking me for "arming the opposition" he was, of course, being lighthearted. He was thanking me for supplying avatars.

I feel he was acknowledging our political differences while humorously expressing his appreciation for the avatar suggestions.

I could just as easily use an eagle of a flag.

I felt those images would appeal to bobboi but there are a thousand more I might have offered.

I'm glad they found one they each liked.

I wonder, how many people opened this thread expecting some drama bitchout fest directed at bobboi?

ninjalooter1701
07-15-2004, 08:13 AM
Has the term patriotism really been devalued that much already by its constant abuse for political gain by the Republicans?

Yes.

GunnyL
07-15-2004, 11:41 AM
[quote]Good choices, Bobboi and Gunnyl! It shows your integrity ... exploiting 9/11 for political gain (most of the other of the proposed avatars) is an expression of bad taste in my view[quote]

Francois ...

Please enlighten me as how the avatar in the shape of our Nation and the colors of our National flag is exploiting anything other than my own National pride.

07-15-2004, 04:35 PM
hrmmm aten we have to end the civilty... lets start cursing!

suedanim
07-15-2004, 04:51 PM
I wonder, how many people opened this thread expecting some drama bitchout fest directed at bobboi?

I, uh.. admit to having been curious about the possibility... hmmm.. yeah, thats about it.

As far as avatars go.. I use what strikes me for the moment. I don't wear one to exemplify who I am...all the time, but more how I feel. Sometimes, its about yeah.. a part of who I am.. but certainly doesn't define me.

btw.. I find it highly insulting that republicons use the flag or eagles, whatever, in order to use what I consider fake patriotism to make it appear they and/or their arguments have the higher ground. What kind of pissant move is that?

Francois Cellier
07-15-2004, 06:51 PM
Please enlighten me as how the avatar in the shape of our Nation and the colors of our National flag is exploiting anything other than my own National pride.

It doesn't, GunnyL. My remark was neither flip nor sarcastic. I meant it exactly the way I wrote it: picking the avatars that you two did is a sign of good taste.

It was you, who were thanking Atenhotep for "arming the opposition." Thus, I was contemplating in my second post, whether the flag superimposed on the map of the U.S. meant to you something to be associated with the Republican party.

From your question, as quoted above, I conclude that it doesn't. There is nothing wrong with exhibiting National pride.

Bobboi's choice clearly is a symbol of the Republican party. His choice signifies that he considers himself a proud Republican, and there is nothing wrong with that either.

GunnyL
07-15-2004, 09:18 PM
I wonder, how many people opened this thread expecting some drama bitchout fest directed at bobboi?

Aten...

I didn't. Bobboi can get in enough trouble on a political thread, so I don't think you'd feel the need to purposefully call him out to attack him.

You are correct about my comment. Completely in jest. I like the red, white and blue; however, I had to pass on the Republican ones. I'm not one.

Francois ...

That reply from you so inoffensive and politically correct I felt like I was back in the military for a moment! :lol

ninjalooter1701
07-15-2004, 09:19 PM
Please enlighten me as how the avatar in the shape of our Nation and the colors of our National flag is exploiting anything other than my own National pride.

It doesn't, GunnyL. My remark was neither flip nor sarcastic. I meant it exactly the way I wrote it: picking the avatars that you two did is a sign of good taste.

It was you, who were thanking Atenhotep for "arming the opposition." Thus, I was contemplating in my second post, whether the flag superimposed on the map of the U.S. meant to you something to be associated with the Republican party.

From your question, as quoted above, I conclude that it doesn't. There is nothing wrong with exhibiting National pride.

Bobboi's choice clearly is a symbol of the Republican party. His choice signifies that he considers himself a proud Republican, and there is nothing wrong with that either.

I've found that the "flag" or "eagle" are primarily adapted as avatars by the conservative posters (not just here) and they are used to exemplify "patriotism" on the behalf of the poster.

GunnyL
07-15-2004, 09:58 PM
I don't eat cake but I would be pretty happy to have had a President that didn't go starting more wars until we at least tried to finish the one we already had.

Guilty as charged.