Julian Bond, NAACP Chair Condemns Bush

[suedanim]

NAACP chairman condemns Bush (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5424218///url)

Julian Bond seeks jump in
voter turnout to oust president

NAACP National Board of Directors Chairman Julian Bond speaks to at the NAACP 95th Annual Convention.

By Patrick Walters
The Associated Press
Updated: 1:25 p.m. ET July 12, 2004

PHILADELPHIA - NAACP chairman Julian Bond urged members of the nation’s oldest civil rights organization to increase voter turnout to oust President Bush, and condemned the administration’s policies on education, the economy and the war in Iraq.

“They preach racial neutrality and practice racial division,” Bond said Sunday night in the 95th annual convention’s keynote address. “They’ve tried to patch the leaky economy and every other domestic problem with duct tape and plastic sheets. They write a new constitution of Iraq and they ignore the Constitution here at home.”

Volunteers with the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People have been working on voter drives in black communities across the country, registering more than 100,000 so far in 11 key states, including Georgia, Florida, Tennessee and New Mexico, Bond said.

'They preach racial neutrality and practice racial division...They write a new constitution of Iraq and they ignore the Constitution here at home.'

— Julian Bond
NAACP Chairman
Bond, a leader in the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee during the 1960s civil rights movement and a Georgia legislator for 20 years, became chairman of the NAACP in 1998.

Bush skips NAACP's convention
Leaders of the Baltimore-based group are upset that President Bush has no plans to attend the convention. Bush spoke at the 2000 NAACP convention when he was a candidate but has declined invitations to speak in each year of his presidency, making him the first president since the 1930s to skip it, officials said.

Democratic challenger John Kerry has accepted an invitation to speak Thursday on the final day of the convention, the group said.

Bond said that 50 years after Brown v. Board of Education, the landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision on school desegregation, and 40 years after the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, schools remain segregated based on income, and racism still exists in many forms.

Minority children still face inequality in school spending and are being disproportionately hurt by the accountability aims of Bush’s No Child Left Behind Act, he said.

“On our present course, we are formalizing two school systems: one filled with middle-class children, most of them white, and the other filled with low-income minorities,” Bond said.

[thaanatos]

PHILADELPHIA - NAACP chairman Julian Bond urged members of the nation’s oldest civil rights organization to increase voter turnout to oust President Bush, and condemned the administration’s policies on education, the economy and the war in Iraq.
I will give you 50 to 1 odds that he had his speech written long before Bush decided not to attend......

“On our present course, we are formalizing two school systems: one filled with middle-class children, most of them white, and the other filled with low-income minorities,” Bond said.
too bad they won't sign on to Bush's voucher program.....it would ease that problem.....

[lily]

I will give you 50 to 1 odds that he had his speech written long before Bush decided not to attend......

Well, I have to admit, since I asked the question of what Bush did to piss off the NAACP yesterday, the answer keeps changing ;)


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“On our present course, we are formalizing two school systems: one filled with middle-class children, most of them white, and the other filled with low-income minorities,” Bond said.

too bad they won't sign on to Bush's voucher program.....it would ease that problem.....

I don't know about where you live Thaan, but here we are overrun with charter schools. All black, no whites allowed. I think that kind of makes a mockery out of Brown vs. the board of education and seperate but equal.

Ah shit..........while I'm in the mood why not start a rant?

Why not the out cry because there is a Miss Black American, all black universities, for that matter a group called the NAACP?

I think that was the shortest rant I've ever had ;)

Why not the out cry because there is a Miss Black American, all black universities, for that matter a group called the NAACP?

Because racist groups and organizations like these do not want equality they was special treatment.

[ninjalooter1701]

Why not the out cry because there is a Miss Black American, all black universities, for that matter a group called the NAACP?

Because racist groups and organizations like these do not want equality they was special treatment.
I have worked at several schools which were basically "All white only" schools. They had a few token minorities, but basically, they are rich white bastions of $.

[suedanim]

I don't know about where you live Thaan, but here we are overrun with charter schools. All black, no whites allowed. I think that kind of makes a mockery out of Brown vs. the board of education and seperate but equal.

How many is overrun? And.. what is their reasoning for not allowing whites?

Why not the out cry because there is a Miss Black American, all black universities, for that matter a group called the NAACP?

um.... black universities existed long before apartied in America was legal, after which, white parents have hardly been beating down the doors to send their precious white babies to get an eduction, especially since their has always existed such a plethora of white universities and colleges, tech schools. Those black schools of upper learning had no choice to exist since black parents were not allowed to send their kids to the all white schools.

The NAACP is not an all black organization. As I have tried to educate here before, the NAACP since its inception was and continues to be a multi-ethnic organization, with a membership of numerous white people.

I'm not sure what you mean by Miss Black American. In the past.. blacks had to have their own beauty pagents, since blacks were not allowed in white pagents. Today... they continue to have them, since whites dominate the beauty standard and because whites so dominate the state and national pagents they do not get as much opportunity. Latina's have been doing much the same thing.

But, if you mean the Miss America pagent... yes.. a few black women have managed to win and recently. And...? That means what? That racism does not exist in America?

[lily]

How many is overrun? And.. what is their reasoning for not allowing whites?

Well, I haven't actually sat down and counted them. If they are taking government money to teach, then they should be open to all races. I have no idea why whites aren't allowed. They take pride in their race and their curriculum is black history. I know this sounds rascist, but believe me I'm not. I'm just asking why.



um.... black universities existed long before apartied in America was legal, after which, white parents have hardly been beating down the doors to send their precious white babies to get an eduction, especially since their has always existed such a plethora of white universities and colleges, tech schools. Those black schools of upper learning had no choice to exist since black parents were not allowed to send their kids to the all white schools.

SO that makes it ok NOW? Desegration has been around for a while now. It goes both ways. Name me one university that will not accept blacks.

The NAACP is not an all black organization. As I have tried to educate here before, the NAACP since its inception was and continues to be a multi-ethnic organization, with a membership of numerous white people.

DUH, no kidding. Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. What would be the outrage if there was an association with the name of NAAWP? Please don't give me the KKK answer :/


I'm not sure what you mean by Miss Black American. In the past.. blacks had to have their own beauty pagents, since blacks were not allowed in white pagents. Today... they continue to have them, since whites dominate the beauty standard and because whites so dominate the state and national pagents they do not get as much opportunity. Latina's have been doing much the same thing.

Another in the past answer :eyes

But, if you mean the Miss America pagent... yes.. a few black women have managed to win and recently. And...? That means what? That racism does not exist in America?

Yes racism is alive and well and it goes both ways.

[ninjalooter1701]

What would be the outrage if there was an association with the name of NAAWP?
There is one, and there was an outrage...

[lily]

What would be the outrage if there was an association with the name of NAAWP?
There is one, and there was an outrage...

I've never heard of it :dunno . Does it still exist?

[lily]

Because racist groups and organizations like these do not want equality they was special treatment.

That sir, is a crock of shit :eyes

[GunnyL]

The NAACP still exists? :rollin

How com it is THEY aren't called racists?

[suedanim]

They didn't blame him for the dragging death bubblenut... But, they did feel he was insensitive to the death the man suffered and the attitudes that produce men like the ones who chained him to that truck and drove off dragging him to bits and pieces along that 4 mile stretch. And they would be RIGHT.. to think so. You didn't say that in this thread.. but in another about the NAACP.

Anyhoo.. gunny..... yes.. to your chagrin the NAACP among many other human and civil rights organizations still exist. And guess what.. if your ass ever needed advice or help due to your own civil rights being abused, they would assist you.. Yes.. even you without blinking an eyelash.

Meanwhile, Kerry makes hay while the sun shines to one of the largest ethnic groups behind whites. :D Back in TexASS he could get away with dissing blacks and gays.... nationally his attitudes towards those groups ain't working for him.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5443142///urrl]Kerry's speech to NAACP digs at Bush[/url[
Dem plays on group's icy relations with president

The Associated Press
Updated: 10:13 a.m. ET July 15, 2004

BOSTON - Democrat John Kerry is telling the NAACP that as president he will always talk with people who disagree with him — a slap at President Bush for declining to address the civil rights group.

“I will be a president who talks with everyone those who agree with me and those who don’t,” Kerry says in remarks prepared for delivery Thursday in Philadelphia before the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Bush has not spoken to the NAACP since he was campaigning in 2000. He was angered when, during that race, the NAACP National Voter Fund ran an ad that portrayed Bush as unsympathetic to the dragging death of James Byrd in Texas.

(thats not blaming him for the dragging death, bubble.. )

Since the campaign, leaders of the NAACP have called Bush an illegal president, compared his anti-abortion views to the Taliban and called his trip to Africa a photo-op. A Bush spokesman blasted the NAACP on Thursday.

ok.. now those are definitely slams... :D

The president “has many friends who belong to the NAACP and respects their proud history of championing civil rights,” White House communications director Dan Bartlett said. “Differences of opinion and opposing views are of course part of the national debate. Yet the current leadership of the NAACP has clearly crossed the line in partisanship and civility, making it impossible to have a constructive dialogue.”

haha.. could they be talking about Julian Bond? What they are looking for are some still on the plantation thinking, yassa boss blacks, who worship white folks.

July 15: After a brief break, John Kerry heads back out Thursday on the campaign trail, which includes a visit to the NAACP conference in Philadelphia. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports.

Today show
“Despite the current leadership’s intolerant views, (snicker)President Bush will continue to reach out to members of the NAACP and African-Americans from across the country,” he said. Bush addresses the Urban League, another civil rights group, next week.

His campaign began airing ads on black radio stations in Philadelphia, site of Kerry’s address, as well as Detroit, St. Louis, Kansas City, Mo., Cleveland, Toledo, Ohio, and Milwaukee. It calls the Massachusetts senator’s voting record “extreme” and spotty.

The leaders of the NAACP have said they are committed to helping Kerry defeat Bush this year. Kerry welcomes the help as he tries to stir blacks to get to the polls this year.

“I will be a president who shares the values of people of all colors who get up and go to work every day, try to raise their families in dignity and want to leave this world a better place for their children,” Kerry says in the NAACP speech. “I will be a president who when he is invited into your home, will always say yes.”

Many criticisms of Bush
In a statement, the Kerry campaign said Bush has failed to bring opportunity for blacks. It criticized Bush for failing to support affirmative action, for dropping employment among blacks and for cutting education and health care programs that disproportionately impact blacks.

Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said, “Kerry continues to campaign making fundamentally baseless assertions about the economy.” He said minority homeownership is at record levels.

After his speech to the NAACP, Kerry was beginning his “Front Porch Tour” in Philadelphia suburb of Lansdowne. The Kerry campaign is putting a new spin on an old technique — trying to get the candidate more time sharing concerns with regular Americans.

Edwards heads for New Orleans
While Kerry is visiting with voters in the swing state of Pennsylvania, his running mate John Edwards will be visiting voters on a front porch in New Orleans. Although Kerry and Edwards were officially kicking off what they say will be a regular feature of their campaign trips, Kerry sat with voters on their porch at least once before.

Last month in Columbus, Ohio, Kerry chatted with two sisters who brought out iced tea and talked about the struggles of raising their kids in a tough economy. The normal intimacy of a front-porch chat was somewhat disrupted by the glare of the flood lights brought in by the campaign and more than a dozen national journalists and staff who watched from the lawn.

Kerry said the importance of the porch visits is “going to the homes of ordinary citizens across this nation and talking with them about the values that matter most to them — values you live by every day — family, responsibility, service, opportunity, inclusion, fairness, faith.”

[suedanim]

They didn't blame him for the dragging death bubblenut... But, they did feel he was insensitive to the death the man suffered and the attitudes that produce men like the ones who chained him to that truck and drove off dragging him to bits and pieces along that 4 mile stretch. And they would be RIGHT.. to think so. You didn't say that in this thread.. but in another about the NAACP.

Anyhoo.. gunny..... yes.. to your chagrin the NAACP among many other human and civil rights organizations still exist. And guess what.. if your ass ever needed advice or help due to your own civil rights being abused, they would assist you.. Yes.. even you without blinking an eyelash.

Meanwhile, Kerry makes hay while the sun shines to one of the largest ethnic groups behind whites. :D Back in TexASS he could get away with dissing blacks and gays.... nationally his attitudes towards those groups ain't working for him.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5443142///urrl]Kerry's speech to NAACP digs at Bush[/url[
Dem plays on group's icy relations with president

The Associated Press
Updated: 10:13 a.m. ET July 15, 2004

BOSTON - Democrat John Kerry is telling the NAACP that as president he will always talk with people who disagree with him — a slap at President Bush for declining to address the civil rights group.

“I will be a president who talks with everyone those who agree with me and those who don’t,” Kerry says in remarks prepared for delivery Thursday in Philadelphia before the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Bush has not spoken to the NAACP since he was campaigning in 2000. He was angered when, during that race, the NAACP National Voter Fund ran an ad that portrayed Bush as unsympathetic to the dragging death of James Byrd in Texas.

(thats not blaming him for the dragging death, bubble.. )

Since the campaign, leaders of the NAACP have called Bush an illegal president, compared his anti-abortion views to the Taliban and called his trip to Africa a photo-op. A Bush spokesman blasted the NAACP on Thursday.

ok.. now those are definitely slams... :D

The president “has many friends who belong to the NAACP and respects their proud history of championing civil rights,” White House communications director Dan Bartlett said. “Differences of opinion and opposing views are of course part of the national debate. Yet the current leadership of the NAACP has clearly crossed the line in partisanship and civility, making it impossible to have a constructive dialogue.”

haha.. could they be talking about Julian Bond? What they are looking for are some still on the plantation thinking, yassa boss blacks, who worship white folks.

July 15: After a brief break, John Kerry heads back out Thursday on the campaign trail, which includes a visit to the NAACP conference in Philadelphia. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports.

Today show
“Despite the current leadership’s intolerant views, (snicker)President Bush will continue to reach out to members of the NAACP and African-Americans from across the country,” he said. Bush addresses the Urban League, another civil rights group, next week.

His campaign began airing ads on black radio stations in Philadelphia, site of Kerry’s address, as well as Detroit, St. Louis, Kansas City, Mo., Cleveland, Toledo, Ohio, and Milwaukee. It calls the Massachusetts senator’s voting record “extreme” and spotty.

The leaders of the NAACP have said they are committed to helping Kerry defeat Bush this year. Kerry welcomes the help as he tries to stir blacks to get to the polls this year.

“I will be a president who shares the values of people of all colors who get up and go to work every day, try to raise their families in dignity and want to leave this world a better place for their children,” Kerry says in the NAACP speech. “I will be a president who when he is invited into your home, will always say yes.”

Many criticisms of Bush
In a statement, the Kerry campaign said Bush has failed to bring opportunity for blacks. It criticized Bush for failing to support affirmative action, for dropping employment among blacks and for cutting education and health care programs that disproportionately impact blacks.

Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said, “Kerry continues to campaign making fundamentally baseless assertions about the economy.” He said minority homeownership is at record levels.

After his speech to the NAACP, Kerry was beginning his “Front Porch Tour” in Philadelphia suburb of Lansdowne. The Kerry campaign is putting a new spin on an old technique — trying to get the candidate more time sharing concerns with regular Americans.

Edwards heads for New Orleans
While Kerry is visiting with voters in the swing state of Pennsylvania, his running mate John Edwards will be visiting voters on a front porch in New Orleans. Although Kerry and Edwards were officially kicking off what they say will be a regular feature of their campaign trips, Kerry sat with voters on their porch at least once before.

Last month in Columbus, Ohio, Kerry chatted with two sisters who brought out iced tea and talked about the struggles of raising their kids in a tough economy. The normal intimacy of a front-porch chat was somewhat disrupted by the glare of the flood lights brought in by the campaign and more than a dozen national journalists and staff who watched from the lawn.

Kerry said the importance of the porch visits is “going to the homes of ordinary citizens across this nation and talking with them about the values that matter most to them — values you live by every day — family, responsibility, service, opportunity, inclusion, fairness, faith.”

[suedanim]

They didn't blame him for the dragging death bubblenut... But, they did feel he was insensitive to the death the man suffered and the attitudes that produce men like the ones who chained him to that truck and drove off dragging him to bits and pieces along that 4 mile stretch. And they would be RIGHT.. to think so. You didn't say that in this thread.. but in another about the NAACP.

Anyhoo.. gunny..... yes.. to your chagrin the NAACP among many other human and civil rights organizations still exist. And guess what.. if your ass ever needed advice or help due to your own civil rights being abused, they would assist you.. Yes.. even you without blinking an eyelash.

Meanwhile, Kerry makes hay while the sun shines to one of the largest ethnic groups behind whites. :D Back in TexASS he could get away with dissing blacks and gays.... nationally his attitudes towards those groups ain't working for him.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5443142///urrl]Kerry's speech to NAACP digs at Bush[/url[
Dem plays on group's icy relations with president

The Associated Press
Updated: 10:13 a.m. ET July 15, 2004

BOSTON - Democrat John Kerry is telling the NAACP that as president he will always talk with people who disagree with him — a slap at President Bush for declining to address the civil rights group.

“I will be a president who talks with everyone those who agree with me and those who don’t,” Kerry says in remarks prepared for delivery Thursday in Philadelphia before the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Bush has not spoken to the NAACP since he was campaigning in 2000. He was angered when, during that race, the NAACP National Voter Fund ran an ad that portrayed Bush as unsympathetic to the dragging death of James Byrd in Texas.

(thats not blaming him for the dragging death, bubble.. )

Since the campaign, leaders of the NAACP have called Bush an illegal president, compared his anti-abortion views to the Taliban and called his trip to Africa a photo-op. A Bush spokesman blasted the NAACP on Thursday.

ok.. now those are definitely slams... :D

The president “has many friends who belong to the NAACP and respects their proud history of championing civil rights,” White House communications director Dan Bartlett said. “Differences of opinion and opposing views are of course part of the national debate. Yet the current leadership of the NAACP has clearly crossed the line in partisanship and civility, making it impossible to have a constructive dialogue.”

haha.. could they be talking about Julian Bond? What they are looking for are some still on the plantation thinking, yassa boss blacks, who worship white folks.

July 15: After a brief break, John Kerry heads back out Thursday on the campaign trail, which includes a visit to the NAACP conference in Philadelphia. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports.

Today show
“Despite the current leadership’s intolerant views, (snicker)President Bush will continue to reach out to members of the NAACP and African-Americans from across the country,” he said. Bush addresses the Urban League, another civil rights group, next week.

His campaign began airing ads on black radio stations in Philadelphia, site of Kerry’s address, as well as Detroit, St. Louis, Kansas City, Mo., Cleveland, Toledo, Ohio, and Milwaukee. It calls the Massachusetts senator’s voting record “extreme” and spotty.

The leaders of the NAACP have said they are committed to helping Kerry defeat Bush this year. Kerry welcomes the help as he tries to stir blacks to get to the polls this year.

“I will be a president who shares the values of people of all colors who get up and go to work every day, try to raise their families in dignity and want to leave this world a better place for their children,” Kerry says in the NAACP speech. “I will be a president who when he is invited into your home, will always say yes.”

Many criticisms of Bush
In a statement, the Kerry campaign said Bush has failed to bring opportunity for blacks. It criticized Bush for failing to support affirmative action, for dropping employment among blacks and for cutting education and health care programs that disproportionately impact blacks.

Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said, “Kerry continues to campaign making fundamentally baseless assertions about the economy.” He said minority homeownership is at record levels.

After his speech to the NAACP, Kerry was beginning his “Front Porch Tour” in Philadelphia suburb of Lansdowne. The Kerry campaign is putting a new spin on an old technique — trying to get the candidate more time sharing concerns with regular Americans.

Edwards heads for New Orleans
While Kerry is visiting with voters in the swing state of Pennsylvania, his running mate John Edwards will be visiting voters on a front porch in New Orleans. Although Kerry and Edwards were officially kicking off what they say will be a regular feature of their campaign trips, Kerry sat with voters on their porch at least once before.

Last month in Columbus, Ohio, Kerry chatted with two sisters who brought out iced tea and talked about the struggles of raising their kids in a tough economy. The normal intimacy of a front-porch chat was somewhat disrupted by the glare of the flood lights brought in by the campaign and more than a dozen national journalists and staff who watched from the lawn.

Kerry said the importance of the porch visits is “going to the homes of ordinary citizens across this nation and talking with them about the values that matter most to them — values you live by every day — family, responsibility, service, opportunity, inclusion, fairness, faith.”

[suedanim]

They didn't blame him for the dragging death bubblenut... But, they did feel he was insensitive to the death the man suffered and the attitudes that produce men like the ones who chained him to that truck and drove off dragging him to bits and pieces along that 4 mile stretch. And they would be RIGHT.. to think so. You didn't say that in this thread.. but in another about the NAACP.

Anyhoo.. gunny..... yes.. to your chagrin the NAACP among many other human and civil rights organizations still exist. And guess what.. if your ass ever needed advice or help due to your own civil rights being abused, they would assist you.. Yes.. even you without blinking an eyelash.

Meanwhile, Kerry makes hay while the sun shines to one of the largest ethnic groups behind whites. :D Back in TexASS he could get away with dissing blacks and gays.... nationally his attitudes towards those groups ain't working for him.

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5443142///urrl]Kerry's speech to NAACP digs at Bush[/url[
Dem plays on group's icy relations with president

The Associated Press
Updated: 10:13 a.m. ET July 15, 2004

BOSTON - Democrat John Kerry is telling the NAACP that as president he will always talk with people who disagree with him — a slap at President Bush for declining to address the civil rights group.

“I will be a president who talks with everyone those who agree with me and those who don’t,” Kerry says in remarks prepared for delivery Thursday in Philadelphia before the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Bush has not spoken to the NAACP since he was campaigning in 2000. He was angered when, during that race, the NAACP National Voter Fund ran an ad that portrayed Bush as unsympathetic to the dragging death of James Byrd in Texas.

(thats not blaming him for the dragging death, bubble.. )

Since the campaign, leaders of the NAACP have called Bush an illegal president, compared his anti-abortion views to the Taliban and called his trip to Africa a photo-op. A Bush spokesman blasted the NAACP on Thursday.

ok.. now those are definitely slams... :D

The president “has many friends who belong to the NAACP and respects their proud history of championing civil rights,” White House communications director Dan Bartlett said. “Differences of opinion and opposing views are of course part of the national debate. Yet the current leadership of the NAACP has clearly crossed the line in partisanship and civility, making it impossible to have a constructive dialogue.”

haha.. could they be talking about Julian Bond? What they are looking for are some still on the plantation thinking, yassa boss blacks, who worship white folks.

July 15: After a brief break, John Kerry heads back out Thursday on the campaign trail, which includes a visit to the NAACP conference in Philadelphia. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell reports.

Today show
“Despite the current leadership’s intolerant views, (snicker)President Bush will continue to reach out to members of the NAACP and African-Americans from across the country,” he said. Bush addresses the Urban League, another civil rights group, next week.

His campaign began airing ads on black radio stations in Philadelphia, site of Kerry’s address, as well as Detroit, St. Louis, Kansas City, Mo., Cleveland, Toledo, Ohio, and Milwaukee. It calls the Massachusetts senator’s voting record “extreme” and spotty.

The leaders of the NAACP have said they are committed to helping Kerry defeat Bush this year. Kerry welcomes the help as he tries to stir blacks to get to the polls this year.

“I will be a president who shares the values of people of all colors who get up and go to work every day, try to raise their families in dignity and want to leave this world a better place for their children,” Kerry says in the NAACP speech. “I will be a president who when he is invited into your home, will always say yes.”

Many criticisms of Bush
In a statement, the Kerry campaign said Bush has failed to bring opportunity for blacks. It criticized Bush for failing to support affirmative action, for dropping employment among blacks and for cutting education and health care programs that disproportionately impact blacks.

Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said, “Kerry continues to campaign making fundamentally baseless assertions about the economy.” He said minority homeownership is at record levels.

After his speech to the NAACP, Kerry was beginning his “Front Porch Tour” in Philadelphia suburb of Lansdowne. The Kerry campaign is putting a new spin on an old technique — trying to get the candidate more time sharing concerns with regular Americans.

Edwards heads for New Orleans
While Kerry is visiting with voters in the swing state of Pennsylvania, his running mate John Edwards will be visiting voters on a front porch in New Orleans. Although Kerry and Edwards were officially kicking off what they say will be a regular feature of their campaign trips, Kerry sat with voters on their porch at least once before.

Last month in Columbus, Ohio, Kerry chatted with two sisters who brought out iced tea and talked about the struggles of raising their kids in a tough economy. The normal intimacy of a front-porch chat was somewhat disrupted by the glare of the flood lights brought in by the campaign and more than a dozen national journalists and staff who watched from the lawn.

Kerry said the importance of the porch visits is “going to the homes of ordinary citizens across this nation and talking with them about the values that matter most to them — values you live by every day — family, responsibility, service, opportunity, inclusion, fairness, faith.”

[ThaBigCheese]

It was like GroundHog Day reading your 4 posts about Sue....

FYI Lily...there is no such thing as an All Black University. I don't know where you're getting your info or if you've ever been on a Historically Black University campus, but there are individuals of all races admitted to those schools. I think the fact that they are called "black colleges" seems to be throwing you off a little.

And to back Sue up, the NAACP is not an "All Black Organization." Here in little ol' Vancouver Washington, our Chapter of the NAACP has Blacks, Whites and Hispanics involved. It is not an organization that is closed to anyone. It is an organization that seeks to improve the quality of life for blacks and browns.

I don't know much about Charter schools so I can't comment on those, but I will look it up....or maybe you could point me in the right direction because I would like to read more about those schools....

[lily]

FYI Lily...there is no such thing as an All Black University. I don't know where you're getting your info or if you've ever been on a Historically Black University campus, but there are individuals of all races admitted to those schools. I think the fact that they are called "black colleges" seems to be throwing you off a little.

I stand (or sit) corrected :cheers

I did find it funny this morning, drinking my coffee. First there was Bush signing the identity theft law, live. Commercial break. Kerry speaking in Philadelphia in front of the NAACP.

Perfect timing!

[tolivr]

Back in TexASS he could get away with dissing blacks and gays.... nationally his attitudes towards those groups ain't working for him.


If true, I wonder how Bush received almost 30% of the Black vote in his last race for Governor of Texas.

What they are looking for are some still on the plantation thinking, yassa boss blacks, who worship white folks.

Actually, that's what the Democrats demand--Blacks who will not stray from the liberal plantation. The only Whites the Black leadership worship are liberal icons--Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, et. al.

But the policies and programs championed by Democrats have done so much for Blacks, of course they are infinitely better off since the creation of the modern welfare state in the '60's:

Today, less than 40 percent of black children live in two-parent families, compared to 70 and 80 percent in earlier periods. Illegitimacy, at 70 percent, is unprecedented in black history. Between 1976 and 2000, over 50 percent of all homicides in the U.S. were committed by blacks and 94 percent of the time the victim was black. These are devastating problems but are they caused by racism and will spending resources fighting racial discrimination solve them? Don't give me any of that legacy-of-slavery nonsense unless you can explain why all of these problems were not worse during the late 19th and early 20th centuries at a time when blacks were much closer to slavery, much poorer, faced more discrimination and had fewer opportunities. [Walter Williams, 5/31/04]

From 1960 to today, Black illegitimacy rates have increased from 23% to 70%.

Here's what has happened to Blacks involving crime over the last 40 years:

Most violent crime in our country is committed by blacks. According to U.S. Department of Justice statistics, blacks commit 54 percent of murders, 42 percent of forcible rapes, 59 percent of robberies and 38 percent of aggravated assaults. For the most part, the victims are black. Ninety-three percent of murdered blacks were murdered by a black.

With a tripling of the illegitimacy and crime rate among Blacks since 1960, can we now agree that the Democratic Party's Great Society Programs failed? But then, even if it utterly destroys the Black culture and race, ole Massa Kennedy and Missus Clinton mean to keep them on that liberal plantation, right?

[ninjalooter1701]

Tolivr, you're the guy who claims that "All great art and literature" is from whites, not blacks...

[tolivr]

Tolivr, you're the guy who claims that "All great art and literature" is from whites, not blacks...

No, actually, I am the guy who claims Western culture and government to be superior to that of Asia and Africa. But as for art and literature, we "Westerners" do have representative great works from African Americans. In particular, I enjoyed reading the poetry of Langston Hughes while in college. You may feel free, however, to disagree by listing those African writers whose works rival Aristotle, Plato, Aeschuylus, Sophocles, Dante, Shakespeare, Pope, Donne, Swift, Blake, Byron, Wordsworth, Shelley, Keats, Austin, Browning, Tennyson, Dickens, Hardy, James, Wilde, Shaw, Houseman, Yeats, Joyce, Eliot, Thomas, Hawthorne, Twain, Melville, Crane, Fitzgerald, Hemingway and Frost.

An incomplete list, to be sure, but a start.

[ninjalooter1701]

Tolivr, you're the guy who claims that "All great art and literature" is from whites, not blacks...

No, actually, I am the guy who claims Western culture and government to be superior to that of Asia and Africa. But as for art and literature, we "Westerners" do have representative great works from African Americans. In particular, I enjoyed reading the poetry of Langston Hughes while in college. You may feel free, however, to disagree by listing those African writers whose works rival Aristotle, Plato, Aeschuylus, Sophocles, Dante, Shakespeare, Pope, Donne, Swift, Blake, Byron, Wordsworth, Shelley, Keats, Austin, Browning, Tennyson, Dickens, Hardy, James, Wilde, Shaw, Houseman, Yeats, Joyce, Eliot, Thomas, Hawthorne, Twain, Melville, Crane, Fitzgerald, Hemingway and Frost.

An incomplete list, to be sure, but a start.
How can one culture be "superior" to another culture. What makes a culture better than the other?

[tolivr]

How can one culture be "superior" to another culture. What makes a culture better than the other?

Absolutely nothing if you are a moral and cultural relativist and if you subscribe to postmodern thought. Of course, you need to also be prepared to counter how the US's government is superior to Sudan's and how Austria's superior to Libya's, and France's to Zimbabwe's. After all, these competing cultures constructed these governments, and since all cultures are "equal," how can one government instituted by one culture be superior to a government instituted by a different culture?

[CheezieDanish]

The NAACP has fallen way of course. They have become the very thing they fight against. Asshats.

[suedanim]

They have become the very thing they fight against. Asshats

What convinces you that this is truth, cheezie?

I am convinced of only one thing... that the people in the NAACP need to return to the same sorts of motivations and activities they had in the 30's and 40's, and on into the 60's and 70's. I can agree that many have become complacent and lazy and thats people of all races in the NAACP. But, that is certainly not true of all. I just don't believe you can make a fair, generalized statement about this organization.

With Julian Bond's leadership, I am seeing a new energy in the NAACP. I think its healthy and wise leadership.

With Julian Bond's leadership, I am seeing a new energy in the NAACP. I think its healthy and wise leadership.

He has forced the Naacp into the fringe, and made them a joke. You call that leadership?

[CheezieDanish]

They have become the very thing they fight against. Asshats

What convinces you that this is truth, cheezie?

Just my opinion... after hearing some old and new members beat each other up on a radio talk show last week.

[Jayne B]

FOX guest cited phantom poll to blast NAACP and boost Bush

Belittling the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and citing misleading poll data, FOX News Channel guest Robert L. Woodson Sr., founder and president of the National Center for Neighborhood Enterprise, vigorously defended President George W. Bush's decision to reject his fourth consecutive invitation to speak at the NAACP's annual convention. When FOX News senior White House correspondent Jim Angle -- who was filling in for Hume as host of the July 15 edition of Special Report with Brit Hume -- prompted him on the source of the poll data, Woodson faltered.

From the July 15 edition of FOX News Channel's Special Report with Brit Hume:

ANGLE: Let me ask you first, in your view was the president right or wrong to pass an opportunity to speak?

WOODSON: He was absolutely correct in passing this up opportunity.

[...]

WOODSON: And his [chairman of the board of the NAACP, Julian Bond] vilification of the president really does a disservice to the organization, forgetting that 83 percent of blacks no longer look to the NAACP for leadership. And I think that ...

ANGLE: Now where does that figure come?

WOODSON: Well, there are some figures -- there are some surveys done when the black community was asked.
----

Media Matters for America found no evidence of such a poll. A Washington Post poll from October 16, 1996, found that "more than eight in 10 blacks ... said they felt there is a shortage of black leaders who effectively articulate issues that are important to most African Americans" but did not name the NAACP specifically.

On the other hand, polls show that black Americans hold the NAACP in high esteem. For example, a 2003 poll by Black America's Political Action Committee found that 83 percent of African American registered voters view the organization favorably, compared with only 8 percent who view it unfavorably. The same poll also showed that NAACP president and CEO Kweisi Mfume is among black America's most respected leaders: 44 percent of respondents view him favorably, compared with only 6 percent who view him unfavorably.

Media Matters for America invites Woodson to direct us to the poll he cited, in case we missed it.

— G.W.

Posted to the web on Friday July 16, 2004 at 6:54 PM EST
http://mediamatters.org/items/200407160008

[CheezieDanish]

I'm not sure if y'all have been through this yet - but why is Bush rejecting to meet with these people four consecutive years in a row?

[ninjalooter1701]

With Julian Bond's leadership, I am seeing a new energy in the NAACP. I think its healthy and wise leadership.

He has forced the Naacp into the fringe, and made them a joke. You call that leadership?
He has forced the USA into the fringe, and made them a joke. You call that leadership?

[suedanim]

but why is Bush rejecting to meet with these people four consecutive years in a row?

Its been said on another thread similar to this one, that dubya got his witta feewin's hurt when an NAACP ad blamed him for not acting more directly as Govenor of TX when James Byrd, the black man chained to a back of a truck and dragged to bits and pieces along a 4 mile stretch, murderers were on trial or some such. I don't remember hearing anything about his taking such offense to their ad, that he refused further direct contact with the largest black organization in the US until now. Must be a conservative urban legend.

But, I wonder could it be MORE than he says??? Perhaps FLORIDA election 2000 and now the rigging up for the FL election 2004?

[GunnyL]

Back in TexASS he could get away with dissing blacks and gays.... nationally his attitudes towards those groups ain't working for him.


I hate to point this out to you nimrod, but while you may be still living in the 60s, we don't have that may racial problems here in TEXAS. Jackass. Of all the states I've lived in as a matter of fact, we have the least problems here.

So kiss my TexASS.

[ninjalooter1701]

Back in TexASS he could get away with dissing blacks and gays.... nationally his attitudes towards those groups ain't working for him.


I hate to point this out to you nimrod, but while you may be still living in the 60s, we don't have that may racial problems here in TEXAS. Jackass. Of all the states I've lived in as a matter of fact, we have the least problems here.

So kiss my TexASS.
Per capita?

[GunnyL]

See how you are? Ninja, whatever possesses you to spend oyur time looking up completely useless facts doesn't possess me.

It's per where I eat, sleep and breathe. SA is 50+% Hispanic. Nobody cares. I don't think even the Hispanics do.

And Bush was a popular Governor with BOTH parties. Democrats here are all radicalized and brain-dead like they are in other places.

[ninjalooter1701]

See how you are? Ninja, whatever possesses you to spend oyur time looking up completely useless facts doesn't possess me.

It's per where I eat, sleep and breathe. SA is 50+% Hispanic. Nobody cares. I don't think even the Hispanics do.

And Bush was a popular Governor with BOTH parties. Democrats here are all radicalized and brain-dead like they are in other places.
I asked, about the facts, that you professed to have. You can call them "Useless," I merelyu asked about the facts that you proclaimed to be true.

You proclaimed them to be true. Now, if someone looks them up, they are "wasting their time."

You have a funny interpretation of "the truth." It's only the "TRUTH" until someone "wastes their time to look it up?" is that "What I am like?"

Indeed.

[GunnyL]

You proclaimed them to be true. Now, if someone looks them up, they are "wasting their time."

Tsk tsk ...

I didn't proclaim anything.

Of all the states I've lived in as a matter of fact, we have the least problems here.

I would read that as someone's opinion since I qualified it with my personal experience.

Feel free to look up whatever you like. I believe what I see more than I believe what I read.

[ninjalooter1701]

I would read that as someone's opinion since I qualified it with my personal experience.

Feel free to look up whatever you like. I believe what I see more than I believe what I read.
And you speak for all the ciudadanos de San Antonio! Felicitaciones!

[GunnyL]

I don't think even the Hispanics do

Easily identifiable opinion.

[ninjalooter1701]

I believe what I see more than I believe what I read.
...

[suedanim]

we don't have that may racial problems here in TEXAS.

Thats cause your TexASS justice system incarcerates so many of the black and latino men down there.. You got 'em right like you want them..... in TexASS.

And gunny... I don't live in the 60's.. I live in the here and now and unlike you, I have no problem living in reality.

Blacks in Texas are incarcerated at seven times the rate of whites, and nearly one in three young African American men in Texas is under some form of criminal justice control. The incarceration rate for Blacks in Texas is 63% higher than the national incarceration rate for blacks.

Actually, it gets worse than that in TexASS.... see link...

http://www.november.org/razorwire/rzold/20/20019.html

Also in TexASS racial profiling is not only alive and well, but Texans take it to a whole 'nother level, eh?

The report, "Racial Profiling: Texas traffic stops and searches" is the nation’s largest survey on racial profiling. Data was collected from over 400 police and sheriff’s departments across Texas, and includes several million police-civilian contacts.

Its release comes just weeks before Senators Russell Feingold (D-WI) and Jon Corzine (D-NJ) and Representatives Chris Shays (R-CT) and John Conyers (D-MI) will introduce the End Racial Profiling Act, or ERPA. Civil rights organizations are calling on U.S. Senators John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchison, both republicans from Texas, to take a stand on racial profiling and support this legislation.

"This report suggests that police in Texas are not only racially profiling, but are also policing in an inefficient, ineffective way," said Will Harrell, Executive Director of the ACLU of Texas. "In some departments, more than 95 percent of Latinos searched did not do anything wrong yet they suffered the humiliation and demoralization of a search that only wastes an officer's time."

In some departments, blacks and Latinos were subjected to consent searches at significantly higher rates than Anglos, despite the fact that Anglos were either equally likely or more likely to be found with drugs and weapons during those searches.

http://www.aclu.org/RacialEquality/RacialEquality.cfm?ID=14860&c=133

And then theres the inordinately high execution rate of blacks and latinos, as compared to whites. Right, just like Florida... its all good in TexASS.

[Anonymous Idiot Savant]

Well, I finally decided to look at this thread... just skimmed most of it for now.

This did catch my eye.

Tol
If true, I wonder how Bush received almost 30% of the Black vote in his last race for Governor of Texas.

Well, that means that 70% didn't vote for him, more than double the number that did vote for him.

Also... not all black people think a like (imagine that!).

[GunnyL]

Sue ...

Quite frankly, you are full of shit. You don't live in anything closely resembling the hear and now. You're still fighting for something that went out long ago.

Political correctness is a DIRECT result of you and your radical left-wing bullshit ideas from three decades ago, and it sucks.

As far as your numbers on Texas go, try representing them in context. Or just maybe those numbers represent the truth? People are arrested fro committing crimes, not shopping at WalMart.

Oh but that couldn't be right. That would mean whites commit less crimes, something you are not willing to accept as a possible answer.

[tolivr]

And then theres the inordinately high execution rate of blacks

Exactly what is racist about executing a Black murderer for killing a Black victim? Ninety-four (94) percent of of Blacks murdered are killed by Blacks.

Between 1976 and 2000, over 50 percent of all homicides in the United States were committed by blacks, and 94 percent of the time, the victim was black[Walter Williams, June 2, 2004].


I wonder if Dewey, Eisenhower, Nixon, Goldwater, Ford, Reagan, Bush, or Dole ever received 30% of the Black vote in ANY race they ran at any level?

Well, that means that 70% [of Blacks in Texas] didn't vote for him [Bush], more than double the number that did vote for him

You may not have noticed, but George W. Bush is a Republican. I know of no White Republican who has garnered more than 10 to 15 percent of the Black vote in any major race in this nation, yet Bush received 30% of their vote in his gubernatorial race in Texas.

And I never did say all Blacks think alike. Rather that's what the liberal Democrats say, because they always point out how Blacks vote 90% or better in favor of Democrats in Presidential elections, and allege Republicans must be racist or Blacks would not vote overwhelmingly against them.

[GunnyL]

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/director_staff/public_information/2002CIT.pdf

Here's a report from a credible source, instead of oyur politically-biased sources. It appears Texans are no worse than anyone else.

Pick on your own state, or better yet, your HOME state. I'm sure civil/equal rights run rampant in NC.

[ninjalooter1701]

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/director_staff/public_information/2002CIT.pdf

Here's a report from a credible source, instead of oyur politically-biased sources. It appears Texans are no worse than anyone else.

Pick on your own state, or better yet, your HOME state. I'm sure civil/equal rights run rampant in NC.
/gasp it's almost as if we need supervision!

[GunnyL]

How's that? And who's "we"?

[ninjalooter1701]

Yeah, we're perfect.

[GunnyL]

:dunno