Projection devices returns!

[38-55 WIN]

Hey Jim how are things in the GFN? 38-55 win

[toolman846]

Not great, but still frozen! :D

[38-55 WIN]

My allergies are kickin my butt. I shot my CETME and my Savage 112 in .223 today. The scope on my savage keeps turning in the rings. Just when I get it sighted in I have to loosen the rings and straighten it back up. I guess I need to buy some new rings. Maybe a drop of locktite would work.

[toolman846]

See if you can get your hands on a dab of thge "680" green stuff, or any one of the varieties that says it's for "cylindrical positioning", or some such thing. NOT the bolt or threadlocker varieties (usually blue or red). Clean the surfaces with alcohol, rings and scope, then put a drop in the center of the upper and lower half of each ring. Carefully set the scope in the lowers, getting it as square as you can, then carefully lower the upper half into position, align for horizontal crosshairs, and tighten the screws/bolts. I've always had better luck with the tiny allen-head type bolts, rather than slotted screws. They're what I'm used to dealing with at work, and I can get more torque on them with an allen wrench, without the possibility of slipping, than I can with a slotted-head screw. Let me know how it works out. If this does not cure the problem, there are a couple of other tricks to try, so don't give up. Of course, new rings are always a last resort. You might also want to measure the scope body at the ring points, with a micrometer or good pair of calipers, if you can lay hands on them. I have seen scope bodies just a shade enough undersize to make tightening up a pair of rings, and having them hold, be a problem.

Let me know what happens.

Jim M.

[38-55 WIN]

I appreciate the info. Where can I get the 680 Green stuff? Auto parts store? I'm still at home and have been taking some time off to get used to some new allergy medicine. The peach trees, Bradford pear trees, redbuds, and darn near everything else is blooming and I was having trouble breathing but my doctor perscribed some different medicine and it seem to be working a little better. Hope everythings ok in the GFN. 38-55

[38-55 WIN]

I decided not to get a 9mm bbl for my CZ 52. I put a Norinco 9mm on lay-a-way. Cheap but kinda interesting. 38-55

[roseval]

Oh, God, I love all this gun mumbo-jumbo.
It's like a kinda poetry, a collection of words one likes the sound of.
Hope all is well, SNPR.

[toolman846]

Yup, I would try the auto parts store first, then try any "industrial supply" places, listing under that heading in the yellow pages. Your proximity to Warner-Robbins leads me to believe there might be enough machine work in the area to support one or more places like that. Just get the little bottle (you'll see why when you ask the price), as it will do countless scopes at a drop of it here and there. Should be $7 - $10, depending on how friendly and honest they are. But be sure and check the scope diameter where it sits in the rings, as I have seen some just a hair enough undersize to make tightening the rings on them a losing proposition.

I'd be interested to know what you think of your Norinco, after you get it and shoot it. Curious as to how you might rate it for fit, function and quality.

And the GFN is actually beginning to thaw out. Hooray!!!!

[38-55 WIN]

Hope all is well, SNPR.
Thanks. I'm getting by.
Jim, I'll keep you posted. I'll be busy with school and lawyers this week.

[toolman846]

"I'll be busy with school and lawyers this week."

Wowzah! Now, THERE'S a combination made in hell! Good luck! :wave

[roseval]

Here, can we have a gunslingers' song thread?
I'll start it off with

Devil's Right Hand, Steve Earle.

My very first pistol was a cap and ball Colt
Shoot as fast as lightnin' but it loads a mite slow
Loads a mite slow and soon I found out
It can get you into trouble but it can't get you out
So then I went and bought myself a Colt 45
Called a peacemaker but I never knew why
Never knew why, I didn't understand
Cause Mama said the pistol is the devil's right hand



Actually the whole message of that song is that the pistol can
"get you into trouble, but it can't get you out."

[toolman846]

Liberty Valance - Gene Pitney

Big Iron - Marty Robbins

El Paso - " "

When the Bullet Hits The Bone

Ringo - Lorne Green

Six Gun Sal

There. That ought to be a good start. :wave

[38-55 WIN]

I got my pistol tuesday. I't's a Norinco Mod. 213. ( aka Tokarev) It was used and came with one mag. No box, instructions, no spare mags. It's in good condition with about 65% bluing and no pitting or rust. The grips are black plastic. The grip itself is narrow but feels good. The gun seems to be well made and is of better quality than I expected. All steel except for the grips.
The safety is a lever on the left side at the rear of the pistol. It rotates to the rear in about a 45 degree arc. It was not easy to use right handed and it takes both hands for us lefties. It's a single action and meant to be carried " cocked and locked." I'm not a fan of C&L carry and prefer a Glock for duty and carry use. But for a rightie that likes "cocked and locked" it would work ok. I didn't buy it for carry use but for fun and the occasional snake or stray critter that's after my chickens. It's just fine for that.
I fired about 90 rounds through it. I had 2 failures to extract but that is probably due to needing cleaning. I don't know how to field strip it yet to give it a good scrubbing. It shot high and to the right but a few hard taps with a hammer corrected the shooting to far to the right. I put the top of the front sight to the bottom of the u-notch on the rear sight and that alleviated the shooting to high. Accuracy was surprisingly good and the gun is lot of fun to shoot. I like it a lot and feel I got my $119.00 plus tax worth.
I also bought some Silver Bear 9mm 145 grain hollowpoints. I shot 4 of them across my Chronograph and they averaged 1073 FPS. Not magnum performance but they would work ok for carry use. I prefer 115 to 125 grain+P's for duty or carry use in 9mm handguns. The 145 grainers will work just fine for snakes or chicken murdering critters. $5.95 a box plus shipping, from AIM, isn't bad on a persons pocketbook either. Hope I didn't bore ya'll with all this. snpr47

[38-55 WIN]

Ok Jim It's your turn to tell me about one of your guns. What was that carry gun you use? I remember you mentioned a .45 but I can't remember what it was.
If you were going to choose a pistol for Roseval what would it be? I would choose a Ruger MK 2 .22cal pistol. Everyone should have one.

[38-55 WIN]

Here, can we have a gunslingers' song thread?
I'll start it off with
Sure. How are you Rose? :wave
The closest I can come up with is Millers Cave. I can't remember who sang it. it was more about revenge and the consequences of it.

[38-55 WIN]

One day I'll write about my chickens. Not tonight. too sleepy.

[roseval]

I want to be Belle Starr.

[38-55 WIN]

I want to be Belle Starr
Ok Rose. Er I mean Ms. Starr. ;)

[roseval]

Cher! Brilliant.

Bang bang, he shot me down.
Bang bang, I hit the ground
Bang bang, my baby shot me down

Oh and how could I forget

Johnny Too Bad, (Steve Earle and the V Roys.

Walking down the road with a pistol in my waist

[toolman846]

I'll do a longer reply, SNPR, later, but for now, the Norinco sounds like a deal.

And how about this one, Roseval - "That's the Night That the Lights Went Out in Georgia". I'm getting two birds with one stone on that one, huh?

"And that's one body that'll never be found.....See, little sister don't miss when she aims her gun."

I left out the part about the big-bellied sheriff. :lol

Remind me to someday tell you about an incident a friend of mine and I witnessed, in Smyrna, just outside Atlanta, one afternoon, on our way to Florida, back in '72, when we took the circle route around Atlanta to get away from road construction. Kind of funny, actually. But I bet not for the kid it happened to.

[roseval]

It's just like a country song!
Guns, heartbreak, male bonding.

[toolman846]

No, country songs are all usually variations on a limited set of themes. He just lost her, her just found her, he's still looking for her, or his dog just died.

Real MUSIC with a country flavor is called Bluegrass, and is what all REAL men listen to - not that sob-sister, whiney, nasal affront to the senses, that bunkhouse drivel penned by lonely cowboys on dark and rainy nights.

(There - THAT ought to shake the bushes) :)

[roseval]

Isn't that kinda a theme for messageboards in general?
Now who's going to write the song?

(Husband has just revealed next week's plans and the week after's).

Bluegrass? Alison Krauss and co?
Can't listen to too much of that. besides it's really quite new as well, isn't it, 1930s onwards?
Give me Neil Young's great King (a hunting dog) song any day.

That hound doawg is hiss-store-ree.

[roseval]

Isn't that kinda a theme for messageboards in general?
Now who's going to write the song?

(Husband has just revealed next week's plans and the week after's).

Bluegrass? Alison Krauss and co?
Can't listen to too much of that. besides it's really quite new as well, isn't it, 1930s onwards?
Give me Neil Young's great King (a hunting dog) song any day.

That hound doawg is hiss-store-ree.

[roseval]

Isn't that kinda a theme for messageboards in general?
Now who's going to write the song?

(Husband has just revealed next week's plans and the week after's).

Bluegrass? Alison Krauss and co?
Can't listen to too much of that. besides it's really quite new as well, isn't it, 1930s onwards?
Give me Neil Young's great King (a hunting dog) song any day.

That hound doawg is hiss-store-ree.

[38-55 WIN]

I will never, ever take a Tokarev apart again! Not even if it gets too dirty to shoot. It came apart easily enough but the hammer spring slipped from under trigger arm and it took me 3 days to figure it out and get it back together. Now the magazine doesn't want to go in. So I just removed the magazine spacer and left it out. I won't even go into how the re-blue job went. My fault. I can do a lot better.
Tell us about your Para-Ordinance, Jim.

[38-55 WIN]

I will never, ever take a Tokarev apart again! Not even if it gets too dirty to shoot. It came apart easily enough but the hammer spring slipped from under trigger arm and it took me 3 days to figure it out and get it back together. Now the magazine doesn't want to go in. So I just removed the magazine spacer and left it out. I won't even go into how the re-blue job went. My fault. I can do a lot better.
Tell us about your Para-Ordinance, Jim.

[38-55 WIN]

I will never, ever take a Tokarev apart again! Not even if it gets too dirty to shoot. It came apart easily enough but the hammer spring slipped from under trigger arm and it took me 3 days to figure it out and get it back together. Now the magazine doesn't want to go in. So I just removed the magazine spacer and left it out. I won't even go into how the re-blue job went. My fault. I can do a lot better.
Tell us about your Para-Ordinance, Jim.

[38-55 WIN]

Give me Neil Young's great King (a hunting dog) song any day.
I'm not sure I remember that one Rose. How does it go.

[38-55 WIN]

Give me Neil Young's great King (a hunting dog) song any day.
I'm not sure I remember that one Rose. How does it go.

[38-55 WIN]

Give me Neil Young's great King (a hunting dog) song any day.
I'm not sure I remember that one Rose. How does it go.

[roseval]

Oh God, my kids used to love it.
On Harvest Moon, with the Harley Davidson song, Legend in her diner.

Sans google.


King went a-running after deer,
Wasn't scairt of jumping off the truck in high gear
bla la blah


more later.

How's the lawyers doin'?

[roseval]

Oh God, my kids used to love it.
On Harvest Moon, with the Harley Davidson song, Legend in her diner.

Sans google.


King went a-running after deer,
Wasn't scairt of jumping off the truck in high gear
bla la blah


more later.

How's the lawyers doin'?

[roseval]

Oh God, my kids used to love it.
On Harvest Moon, with the Harley Davidson song, Legend in her diner.

Sans google.


King went a-running after deer,
Wasn't scairt of jumping off the truck in high gear
bla la blah


more later.

How's the lawyers doin'?

[38-55 WIN]

How's the lawyers doin'?
They're fine, it's me I'm worried about.

[38-55 WIN]

How's the lawyers doin'?
They're fine, it's me I'm worried about.

[38-55 WIN]

How's the lawyers doin'?
They're fine, it's me I'm worried about.

[roseval]

Here's more of the lyrics. They are a hoot.

I shall have to find the Harvest Moon CD now.

I had a dog and his name was King
I told the dog about everything
There in my truck the dog and I
Then one day the King up and died.

Then I thought about the times we had
Once when I kicked him when he was bad
Old King sure meant a lot to me
But that hound dog is history.

[roseval]

Here's more of the lyrics. They are a hoot.

I shall have to find the Harvest Moon CD now.

I had a dog and his name was King
I told the dog about everything
There in my truck the dog and I
Then one day the King up and died.

Then I thought about the times we had
Once when I kicked him when he was bad
Old King sure meant a lot to me
But that hound dog is history.

[roseval]

Here's more of the lyrics. They are a hoot.

I shall have to find the Harvest Moon CD now.

I had a dog and his name was King
I told the dog about everything
There in my truck the dog and I
Then one day the King up and died.

Then I thought about the times we had
Once when I kicked him when he was bad
Old King sure meant a lot to me
But that hound dog is history.

[38-55 WIN]

How are things your way Rose?

[38-55 WIN]

How are things your way Rose?

[38-55 WIN]

How are things your way Rose?

[38-55 WIN]

:wave

[38-55 WIN]

:wave

[38-55 WIN]

:wave

[roseval]

Well, the sun is shining today, in old Belfast town.
Just left daughter down to school.

Must do some school work today, planning stuff.

Looking forward to going away to Donegal at Easter, to renew my photo collection .


Hope it's going well, for you, SNPR.

[roseval]

Well, the sun is shining today, in old Belfast town.
Just left daughter down to school.

Must do some school work today, planning stuff.

Looking forward to going away to Donegal at Easter, to renew my photo collection .


Hope it's going well, for you, SNPR.

[roseval]

Well, the sun is shining today, in old Belfast town.
Just left daughter down to school.

Must do some school work today, planning stuff.

Looking forward to going away to Donegal at Easter, to renew my photo collection .


Hope it's going well, for you, SNPR.

[38-55 WIN]

Hope it's going well, for you, SNPR.
I'm fine. it's a sunny day here in Georgia. Everything covered with pollen. At times I wear a dust filter so I can breath.

[38-55 WIN]

Hope it's going well, for you, SNPR.
I'm fine. it's a sunny day here in Georgia. Everything covered with pollen. At times I wear a dust filter so I can breath.

[38-55 WIN]

Hope it's going well, for you, SNPR.
I'm fine. it's a sunny day here in Georgia. Everything covered with pollen. At times I wear a dust filter so I can breath.

[roseval]

Is that asthma or hayfever?

[roseval]

Is that asthma or hayfever?

[roseval]

Is that asthma or hayfever?

[Belle Starr]

Ah,
this was the place I was looking for, the gun-toting song place.


I love the bit in Long Riders where David Carradine and Belle Starr's husband fight each other, with her ribbon in their mouths.

[6.5x55]

Is that you Roseval? I'm now 6.5x55 instead of 38-55 win or snpr47. At least I'm in. :wave

[Belle Starr]

Yes it's me. RV.

This is a name I had to create when I couldn't get logged in, coupla weeks.
ago.
Thing is, now I know more about oul' Belle than I ever did before.

Makes me want to get Long Riders out on video.

[6.5x55]

I made it back again. I'm 6.5x55 instead of snpr47 but at least I'm Back. :cheers :wave

[toolman846]

And we're all glad to see you back, too! :wave

[6.5x55]

Hey Jim, when are you going to tell us about some of your guns. snpr

[toolman846]

Give me a few days, and I'll see what I can put together.

What do you want to start with, long ones or short ones?

[6.5x55]

Long ones.
BTW I'm still having a blast shooting my Chinese 9mm. I'm gonna' need another 1000 rds of ammo soon. Actually I need it now but old mean and stingy would pitch a fit.

[toolman846]

Long ones, huh? OK. Say - what bullet are you using in your 9mm? I load lubed lead for general burnz-up, and semi-jacketed hollow points for serious work. Around 124 grains. And hot. The pieces I've got will stand it. Got a couple of 9mm Lahtis that I've had for almost thirty years now - got them when they were going for $150 apiece. A very stout weapon, and will handle some really hot stuff. I've going to get a spare slide, and put a Luger artillery model-length barrel on it, just to see how it shoots. The things are cut for a Luger-style shoulder stock, but I don't have one, and can't make one, as it would be against the law, as far as I know, and I'm not willing to take the chance over something like that. So I'll probably just use them off-hand, and off a rather substantial pistol rest I built. The rest weighs about 30 pounds, and all adjustments are done with 3/8-16 socket head bolts, and allen wrenches. No twitch, no wiggle. Where you aims, it shoots!

[6.5x55]

I use 115gr Russian made hardball for practice and 115 +p's made by Georgia Arms which comes loaded with a Speer GoldDot HP. I have 2 boxes of Brown Bear 145 HP for protecting my chickens from stray dogs, etc. but I don't think I'd use it for a duty/carry round.
I use Georgia Arms .40S&W 155grGDHP+p's (yes they make +p's for .40 S&W) which is loaded to close to 1200fps. Georgia Arms also sells a +p+ in both 9mm and .40. The .40cal +p+ is advertised at 1300fps but I'm afraid of it. The +p's cause the slide to come back so hard it ejects the empties into the stratosphere( ok so it's only about 20 feet into the air and about 30 feet away, it's still too far) so I'm not about to shoot the +p+'s. I shoot swaged lead bullets in my .38 and .357mag handloads and my own cast lead 203 gr rnfp's in my .44mag, but only load them to 1100fps to keep from leading the BBL. I usually cast from wheel weights so the lead is not very hard. I haven't handloaded any ammo in over a year or so but I still have some handloads left.

[6.5x55]

I load lubed lead for general burnz-up
Cast your own?

[roseval]

Is this all just a metaphor for procreational activities?

[6.5x55]

Is this all just a metaphor for procreational activities?
Yes! :rofl

[6.5x55]

How are you Rose? :wave

[roseval]

Snpr,
just recovering from finishing a crappy educational ICT data handling project thing.

I am really going back to my original opinion that money on PCs and internet use in schools, by pupils, is wasted, certainly at the primary level.
It's good for teachers to be able to use it in work preparation, which I have always done, but expecting teachers to manage a whole system, printers, scanners, laptops and networks is crazy. I am supposed to let my pupils, age 9-10, use the internet daily, but how can I ensure everyweb page they look at is vetted?
There is a filter but......
Rant over.

Looking forward to end of school year now.
I want to know how it's going with the legal prof?
Or is that all sorted out?

[6.5x55]

Rant over.
Go ahead and rant, teachers need to let off some steam occasionally.

[Dave]

I am supposed to let my pupils, age 9-10, use the internet daily, but how can I ensure everyweb page they look at is vetted?

Doesn't your school have a network tech? There are countless good quality filter solutions which can be implemented on proxy servers. Not only do they filter out less desirable sites, they can log all net access. Which in turn saves you having to check each PC individually, you can therefore monitor all access from the comfort of your desk in realtime.

[roseval]

Daav, actually, no we don't have a IT Tech.
A teacher has to do all the admin stuf, but I generally know more about it than she does.
There is a filter, and I think sites are logged.

I never log into any board in school,
but sometimes after school,
I look at Lifeboat, sex talk and all, which gets thru' the filter.

Your site doesn't.
This is what I mean,
my class could read all that stuff, but not this board.

[6.5x55]

How's it going out there?

[6.5x55]

How's it going out there? :wave

[toolman846]

About as well as can be expected, given the times we live in.

And the simp-suckin' idiots one has to deal with wherever one goes.
A business and my bank just conspired in idiocy to commit a joint $3600 mistake in my account, which it will no doubt take all day tomorrow to straighten out. I'm thinking of simply going to the newspaper with it, and letting them write the story. It's a classic.

[6.5x55]

My wife is in Lansing Mi. from Sun 'till Wednesday. and says the weather is great in the GFN. It's hot here in Georgia. Dry too.
I went to a flea mkt. Sunday and saw a buttstock for a Winchester Mod. 62. I asked the old man that had it how much he wanted and he said 2 dollars. I snached my money out so fast it almost set my wallet on fire. My dad gave me a Mod. 62 about a year ago and it's in bad shape. The stock is cracked and wobbles so bad it's difficult to shoot. The pump handle needs replacing also. snpr

[6.5x55]

A business and my bank just conspired in idiocy to commit a joint $3600 mistake in my account,
Ouch!!

[toolman846]

What's happening in Lansing, SNPR? I lived there for eight years, 1972-1980, until I moved here to GR in October 1980. Don't miss it much. Funny thing, though. There are about 150,000 in Lansing and surrounding area, and the local swap rag, the "Wheeler Dealer", always had two or three columns of guns in it. Bought a number of guns through the Wheeler Dealer, and at local shows there, which were always worth gioing to. I moved to GR, which is close to 400,000 for the overall area, and the Wheeler Dealer here usually has about four guns - period. And the shows have a lot of stuff, but it's all very high-priced, not much on dealing, and usually leave you with the feeling of "why did I go?" after you leave. How are they down your way?

[6.5x55]

What's happening in Lansing, SNPR?
The company my wife works for sent her there for a 2 day class.
How are they down your way?
For the most part I can do better searching the pawn shops or for ammo I go on the internet. The only time I find a great deal at a gunshow is when I'm broke! I let my C & R expire but used to get decent deals shopping the internet for guns. Do you have a C & R ffl?

[6.5x55]

Where's Rose? :dunno

[roseval]

Oh,
here I am, just cleaning up my desk-top so that I can post it, as I am so proud of the picture.

[6.5x55]

so that I can post it, as I am so proud of the picture.
I found the picture of the butterflies. It's great!

[roseval]

See,
Snpr, I've been missing all the "truck driving into tree" stories.

Over here it's the bonfire season, bit difficult to explain.

[6.5x55]

I have another story for you.
I go to school 2 nights a week to learn outdoor products and small engine repair. One of the students was working on a
Snapper riding mower that was about 25 years old. The motor is in the rear and has a pull cord type starter. You have to go to the rear of the mower and pull the starter rope and then get on the mower. Just as he was about to pull the cord I thought "I hope he doesn't have it in gear" and looked down at the gear shift. It was in sixth gear and he pulled the starter rope before I could warn him. It cranked on the first pull and took off across the parking lot. :eek The throttle was wide open. We took off after the lawn mower. I weigh 300 lbs and the other student is 62 years old. Neither one of us is in shape for chasing a runaway lawn mower. I managed to jump on, splitting my pants in the process, and get the darn thing stopped before it hit any cars. We were embarrassed to no end. Our instructor said that I move pretty fast for a big guy.

[roseval]

I am very proud of the fact that I can start our mower. Husband gets the petrol and mixes it, puts it in, but I make it work.

Last time my eldest bro was at our old family home more than 20 yrs ago, (our father had been dead ten years) he got out all the assembled collection of historic mowers, cleaned them up and mowed the grass.
I reminded him that he never did it without a fight in the olden-daze, and he said he did it as a tribute to the "old man".
Later on he ran a vacumn repair shop, presumably 'cos he stripped down the hoovers as well.

[6.5x55]

It's good to come here and get away from all the Iraq/war/politics posts. It's gets tiresome reading the same stuff in differing disguises. Where's Jim?

[roseval]

Hmm, I'll try to think of a story.

Oh, I know, something I found out today, the school I have worked in, for most of last ten years, (one year out) had more than 800 chn in 1969, one of the largest in NI.
It now has less than 100.

[6.5x55]

It now has less than 100.
What happened??

[roseval]

population shift,
along sectarian lines.

Also, the pop. of inner city Belfast has dropped, with the birth rate,
but it is mostly sectarian re-alignment.

[6.5x55]

Here's a joke I got from Facts and fun:
An attorney returned home late one evening after a very taxing day trying to get a stay of execution for a client, named Wilbur Wright, who was due to be hanged for murder at midnight. His last minute plea for clemency to the state governor had failed and he was feeling tired and depressed. As soon as he got through the door his wife started on about, "What time of night do you call this? Where the heck have you been?" Too shattered to play his usual role in this familiar ritual, he went and poured himself a very large whisky and headed off to the bathroom for a long hot soak - pursued by his wife's sarcastic remarks.
While he was in the bath the phone rang, which the wife answered - to be told that her husband's client had been granted his stay of execution after all. Realizing what a day he must have had, she relented a little and went upstairs to give him the good news. As she opened the bathroom door she was greeted by the sight of her husband's rear view as he bent naked over the bath cleaning the tub. "They're not hanging Wright tonight," she said, at which the attorney whirled round and screamed hysterically, "For crying out loud woman, don't you ever stop?"